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Fremath at 19:09, 22 November 2013

2013-11-22T19:09:32Z

Fremath: /* definitions? */ new section

2013-11-22T19:08:30Z

‎definitions?: new section

Fremath: /* definitions? */ new section

2013-11-22T19:08:21Z

‎definitions?: new section

Okapi: /* Making this main page more inviting */ why not here?

2007-06-23T22:42:58Z

‎Making this main page more inviting: why not here?

Jw4nvc: /* Making this main page more inviting */

2007-06-23T07:08:39Z

‎Making this main page more inviting

Okapi: /* Making this main page more inviting */ Is anybody listening?

2007-06-23T02:15:55Z

‎Making this main page more inviting: Is anybody listening?

Okapi: Making this main page more inviting - creating ? page

2007-06-17T21:13:04Z

Making this main page more inviting - creating ? page

Jori: /* game power leveling and game gold */

2007-06-12T05:04:59Z

‎game power leveling and game gold

Wwwzhudan: game power leveling and game gold

2007-06-11T18:13:37Z

game power leveling and game gold

Jori: /* game power leveling and game gold */

2007-06-09T23:57:13Z

‎game power leveling and game gold

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	: Thank you for your nice reply and your invitation. Since I have seen all of this and more created on the web with a wiki such as this, I am wondering why you aren't doing that already here. Of course, you can do some things better with a dedicated system, but I believe the life of a website comes from its people, not from its technology. If I may be blunt, I feel reminded of some people who buy the latest sports equipment before they really use the equipment they already have. [[User:Okapi\|Okapi]] 00:42, 24 June 2007 (CEST)		: Thank you for your nice reply and your invitation. Since I have seen all of this and more created on the web with a wiki such as this, I am wondering why you aren't doing that already here. Of course, you can do some things better with a dedicated system, but I believe the life of a website comes from its people, not from its technology. If I may be blunt, I feel reminded of some people who buy the latest sports equipment before they really use the equipment they already have. [[User:Okapi\|Okapi]] 00:42, 24 June 2007 (CEST)
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−	~~== definitions? ==~~
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−	Somebody asked on a mailing-list 'how do you giraffe dance, what is giraffe/nvc dance?'. I would like to post my reply here, in the spirit of contribution. How about a link on the front page for 'definitions' or similar? Or a suggestion where it might fit, anybody? - cheers, Jonathan Cowan
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−	~~here is my answer, in case anybody is moved to put it up somewhere:~~
−
−	~~Q. Giraffe dance.. I have heard this during my studies but I never read anything that describes the steps of this giraffe dance. I need more understanding on this [..]~~
−
−	~~A. If your first request elicits a 'no', see if the other can come up with~~
−	~~another request or strategy which takes account of both your needs. If~~
−	~~this counter-request does not meet some need of yours, go back with a~~
−	~~counter-counter-request to address all the needs presenting this time.~~
−	~~Repeat this cycle until all needs are addressed, and you've arrived at~~
−	~~a successful strategy - 'where everybody's needs are met'.~~
−
−	~~The 'dancing' is like negotiating (in the meaning of moving through) the~~
−	~~problem space together, as if you were on a dance floor, with that kind~~
−	~~of physical coordination and cooperation involved.~~

	== definitions? ==		== definitions? ==

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	: Thank you for your nice reply and your invitation. Since I have seen all of this and more created on the web with a wiki such as this, I am wondering why you aren't doing that already here. Of course, you can do some things better with a dedicated system, but I believe the life of a website comes from its people, not from its technology. If I may be blunt, I feel reminded of some people who buy the latest sports equipment before they really use the equipment they already have. [[User:Okapi\|Okapi]] 00:42, 24 June 2007 (CEST)		: Thank you for your nice reply and your invitation. Since I have seen all of this and more created on the web with a wiki such as this, I am wondering why you aren't doing that already here. Of course, you can do some things better with a dedicated system, but I believe the life of a website comes from its people, not from its technology. If I may be blunt, I feel reminded of some people who buy the latest sports equipment before they really use the equipment they already have. [[User:Okapi\|Okapi]] 00:42, 24 June 2007 (CEST)
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		+	== definitions? ==
		+
		+	Somebody asked on a mailing-list 'how do you giraffe dance, what is giraffe/nvc dance?'. I would like to post my reply here, in the spirit of contribution. How about a link on the front page for 'definitions' or similar? Or a suggestion where it might fit, anybody? - cheers, Jonathan Cowan
		+
		+	here is my answer, in case anybody is moved to put it up somewhere:
		+
		+	Q. Giraffe dance.. I have heard this during my studies but I never read anything that describes the steps of this giraffe dance. I need more understanding on this [..]
		+
		+	A. If your first request elicits a 'no', see if the other can come up with
		+	another request or strategy which takes account of both your needs. If
		+	this counter-request does not meet some need of yours, go back with a
		+	counter-counter-request to address all the needs presenting this time.
		+	Repeat this cycle until all needs are addressed, and you've arrived at
		+	a successful strategy - 'where everybody's needs are met'.
		+
		+	The 'dancing' is like negotiating (in the meaning of moving through) the
		+	problem space together, as if you were on a dance floor, with that kind
		+	of physical coordination and cooperation involved.

	== definitions? ==		== definitions? ==

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	: Thank you for your nice reply and your invitation. Since I have seen all of this and more created on the web with a wiki such as this, I am wondering why you aren't doing that already here. Of course, you can do some things better with a dedicated system, but I believe the life of a website comes from its people, not from its technology. If I may be blunt, I feel reminded of some people who buy the latest sports equipment before they really use the equipment they already have. [[User:Okapi\|Okapi]] 00:42, 24 June 2007 (CEST)		: Thank you for your nice reply and your invitation. Since I have seen all of this and more created on the web with a wiki such as this, I am wondering why you aren't doing that already here. Of course, you can do some things better with a dedicated system, but I believe the life of a website comes from its people, not from its technology. If I may be blunt, I feel reminded of some people who buy the latest sports equipment before they really use the equipment they already have. [[User:Okapi\|Okapi]] 00:42, 24 June 2007 (CEST)
		+
		+	== definitions? ==
		+
		+	Somebody asked on a mailing-list 'how do you giraffe dance, what is giraffe/nvc dance?'. I would like to post my reply here, in the spirit of contribution. How about a link on the front page for 'definitions' or similar? Or a suggestion where it might fit, anybody? - cheers, Jonathan Cowan
		+
		+	here is my answer, in case anybody is moved to put it up somewhere:
		+
		+	Q. Giraffe dance.. I have heard this during my studies but I never read anything that describes the steps of this giraffe dance. I need more understanding on this [..]
		+
		+	A. If your first request elicits a 'no', see if the other can come up with
		+	another request or strategy which takes account of both your needs. If
		+	this counter-request does not meet some need of yours, go back with a
		+	counter-counter-request to address all the needs presenting this time.
		+	Repeat this cycle until all needs are addressed, and you've arrived at
		+	a successful strategy - 'where everybody's needs are met'.
		+
		+	The 'dancing' is like negotiating (in the meaning of moving through) the
		+	problem space together, as if you were on a dance floor, with that kind
		+	of physical coordination and cooperation involved.

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	I hope this helps answer your questions, and that you and anyone else reading this might consider accepting my [[Invitation]] by clicking on the [[Invitation\|link]].<br>		I hope this helps answer your questions, and that you and anyone else reading this might consider accepting my [[Invitation]] by clicking on the [[Invitation\|link]].<br>
	[[User:Jw4nvc\|John W.]]		[[User:Jw4nvc\|John W.]]
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		+	: Thank you for your nice reply and your invitation. Since I have seen all of this and more created on the web with a wiki such as this, I am wondering why you aren't doing that already here. Of course, you can do some things better with a dedicated system, but I believe the life of a website comes from its people, not from its technology. If I may be blunt, I feel reminded of some people who buy the latest sports equipment before they really use the equipment they already have. [[User:Okapi\|Okapi]] 00:42, 24 June 2007 (CEST)

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	: Is anybody listening? I find it frustrating when I say "hello" to a small group of people and nobody replies. Are you really open to the public or is this a closed group that just happens to use the wiki engine? I came here to help, but I won't impose on a group that prefers to remain among themselves. [[User:Okapi\|Okapi]] 04:15, 23 June 2007 (CEST)		: Is anybody listening? I find it frustrating when I say "hello" to a small group of people and nobody replies. Are you really open to the public or is this a closed group that just happens to use the wiki engine? I came here to help, but I won't impose on a group that prefers to remain among themselves. [[User:Okapi\|Okapi]] 04:15, 23 June 2007 (CEST)
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		+	<B>Hello :)</b><br>
		+	<I>Disappointing to have discovered this site, created an inviting new place for people to connect, and now you're excited to see more lively responses?</i>
		+
		+	I hope that hasty "empathy" helps at least a little, because I appreciate everyone who has helped to create community on this site. I used to check in here much more often, and posted more content in the past too. Right now I'm distracted by lots of other things, and most of my web creativity is going into the upcoming cnvc.org website. The ITC (see the two links under "Projects using..." on the [[Main Page]] for more info than you might have time for), has been working on this and several related projects for a while.
		+
		+	Anyway, in answer to your question my impression is that the live dialog online in the NVC community is somewhat limited (maybe because giraffes tend to focus on in-person or at least telephone dialog?). What dialog there is online seems to be in a couple of yahoo groups right now. My fervent hope is that sometime soon the new website will have features to support moving the dialog there and adding many new topics and participants. Yes, my understanding is that this wiki is open to everyone for reading and to those willing to register for posting. So my belief is that people here do welcome everyone, are an "open group," and might tend to focus on their particular interests rather than general dialog.
		+
		+	I hope this helps answer your questions, and that you and anyone else reading this might consider accepting my [[Invitation]] by clicking on the [[Invitation\|link]].<br>
		+	[[User:Jw4nvc\|John W.]]

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	== Making this main page more inviting ==		== Making this main page more inviting ==
	Currently, the main page is nice for finding resources, but it is quite impersonal. It shows no way to connect with the people here. One of the ways to do that would be a reference desk or help desk where people can ask other people questions. (Wikipedia e.g. has several, which contribute significanly to the life of that website.) How about something like that here? In analogy to Wikipedia's shortcut "WP:?", I'll create a page named [[?]] and write my question there. Please feel free to move the question anywhere you see fit. If you like the idea of the [[?]] page then it would be nice if someone with the right permission could add that to the main page. It would be very helpful if people who are interested in answering general NVC related question would add the [[?]] to their watchlist. [[User:Okapi\|Okapi]] 23:13, 17 June 2007 (CEST)		Currently, the main page is nice for finding resources, but it is quite impersonal. It shows no way to connect with the people here. One of the ways to do that would be a reference desk or help desk where people can ask other people questions. (Wikipedia e.g. has several, which contribute significanly to the life of that website.) How about something like that here? In analogy to Wikipedia's shortcut "WP:?", I'll create a page named [[?]] and write my question there. Please feel free to move the question anywhere you see fit. If you like the idea of the [[?]] page then it would be nice if someone with the right permission could add that to the main page. It would be very helpful if people who are interested in answering general NVC related question would add the [[?]] to their watchlist. [[User:Okapi\|Okapi]] 23:13, 17 June 2007 (CEST)
		+
		+	: Is anybody listening? I find it frustrating when I say "hello" to a small group of people and nobody replies. Are you really open to the public or is this a closed group that just happens to use the wiki engine? I came here to help, but I won't impose on a group that prefers to remain among themselves. [[User:Okapi\|Okapi]] 04:15, 23 June 2007 (CEST)

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	The page is no longer marked for deletion. I will remove this section in the next few weeks... --[[User:John Abbe\|John Abbe]] 21:18, 9 June 2007 (CEST)		The page is no longer marked for deletion. I will remove this section in the next few weeks... --[[User:John Abbe\|John Abbe]] 21:18, 9 June 2007 (CEST)
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		+	: Fine by me, although it is a bit unexpected when you come from Wikipedia, where it would be considered disrespectful to delete other people's talk page contributions. [[User:Okapi\|Okapi]] 23:13, 17 June 2007 (CEST)
		+
		+	== Making this main page more inviting ==
		+	Currently, the main page is nice for finding resources, but it is quite impersonal. It shows no way to connect with the people here. One of the ways to do that would be a reference desk or help desk where people can ask other people questions. (Wikipedia e.g. has several, which contribute significanly to the life of that website.) How about something like that here? In analogy to Wikipedia's shortcut "WP:?", I'll create a page named [[?]] and write my question there. Please feel free to move the question anywhere you see fit. If you like the idea of the [[?]] page then it would be nice if someone with the right permission could add that to the main page. It would be very helpful if people who are interested in answering general NVC related question would add the [[?]] to their watchlist. [[User:Okapi\|Okapi]] 23:13, 17 June 2007 (CEST)

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	The page is no longer marked for deletion. I will remove this section in the next few weeks... --[[User:John Abbe\|John Abbe]] 21:18, 9 June 2007 (CEST)		The page is no longer marked for deletion. I will remove this section in the next few weeks... --[[User:John Abbe\|John Abbe]] 21:18, 9 June 2007 (CEST)
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	The page is no longer marked for deletion. I will remove this section in the next few weeks... --[[User:John Abbe\|John Abbe]] 21:18, 9 June 2007 (CEST)		The page is no longer marked for deletion. I will remove this section in the next few weeks... --[[User:John Abbe\|John Abbe]] 21:18, 9 June 2007 (CEST)
		+
		+	== game power leveling and game gold ==
		+
		+	game power leveling and game gold
		+	welcome to our web site http://www.gamegoldspace.com, we company be engaged in geme
		+	power leveling.
		+	we company mostly relate to [http://www.gamegoldspace.com/ wow power leveling] adn [http://www.gamegoldspace.com/ world of warcraft power leveling]
		+	[http://www.gamegoldspace.com/ lotro power leveling] and [http://www.gamegoldspace.com/the lord of the rings online power leveling] and [http://www.gamegoldspace.com/ Shadows of Angmar power leveling]
		+	and [http://www.gamegoldspace.com/ wow gold] and [http://www.gamegoldspace.com/ lotro gold] and [http://www.gamegoldspace.com/ ddo power leveling] and [http://www.gamegoldspace.com/ ddo gold]
		+	and [http://www.gamegoldspace.com/ Lineage 2 Power leveling] and [http://www.gamegoldspace.com/ Lineage 2 adena]
		+	we promises that power leveling services 724365, if you buy the gold, we will send a message to your PayPal email. Please check it and reply to us ( its need for the first time ), and we will
		+	then deliver the gold to you within 1~24 hours.

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	The page is no longer marked for deletion. I will remove this section in the next few weeks... --[[User:John Abbe\|John Abbe]] 21:18, 9 June 2007 (CEST)		The page is no longer marked for deletion. I will remove this section in the next few weeks... --[[User:John Abbe\|John Abbe]] 21:18, 9 June 2007 (CEST)
−
−	~~== game power leveling and game gold ==~~
−
−	~~game power leveling and game gold~~
−	~~welcome to our web site http://www.gamegoldspace.com, we company be engaged in geme~~
−	~~power leveling.~~
−	~~we company mostly relate to [http://www.gamegoldspace.com/ wow power leveling] adn [http://www.gamegoldspace.com/ world of warcraft power leveling]~~
−	~~[http://www.gamegoldspace.com/ lotro power leveling] and [http://www.gamegoldspace.com/the lord of the rings online power leveling] and [http://www.gamegoldspace.com/ Shadows of Angmar power leveling]~~
−	~~and [http://www.gamegoldspace.com/ wow gold] and [http://www.gamegoldspace.com/ lotro gold] and [http://www.gamegoldspace.com/ ddo power leveling] and [http://www.gamegoldspace.com/ ddo gold]~~
−	~~and [http://www.gamegoldspace.com/ Lineage 2 Power leveling] and [http://www.gamegoldspace.com/ Lineage 2 adena]~~
−	~~we promises that power leveling services 724365, if you buy the gold, we will send a message to your PayPal email. Please check it and reply to us ( its need for the first time ), and we will~~
−	~~then deliver the gold to you within 1~24 hours.~~